"Allow Me To Hang Out With Your Lady"
written by:
Kay

Author's Note: This story references some characters first mentioned in my earlier pieces (Does Your Mom Let You Date Black Guys? and I Think I Have Some Studying, but I also think it stands well on it's own. That said, don't be afraid to read the earlier ones! As always, I appreciate feedback and votes!

I felt like fucking Rapunzel standing at my dorm room window lowering the newly purchased, knotted rope to the ground below. At one end it was tied to the bulky radiator in my room. Waiting at the other end--three stories below--was Ant.

It was pitch black outside. Almost all the lights in the dorm were off. I tried not to think about the consequences of getting caught. I was breaking so many rules. Violating curfew. Having an unauthorized guest in the dorm. Have a male on campus. Having sex. Being caught could mean expulsion and the wrath of my parents. Plus, Ant would likely be arrested for trespassing.

After the party I'd thought on some level that things would end. He certainly had plenty of options and may be tired of his latest conquest. But apparently fucking me raw all night--and watching one of his friends do the same--had just piqued his interest further. He'd emailed me constantly since and asked to see me again. I'd joked about a midnight rendezvous and he'd responded enthusiastically. The more I thought about it, the more excited it made me. And my roommate was home visiting family. It was all too tempting to resist, despite the risks.

When Ant got the rope he shimmied up in a matter of seconds. He climbed through my window with his muscles covered in a thin layer of sweat.

"I'm happy to see..." I started, but he put a finger to my lips.

"We gotta be quiet," he said. "We don't want anyone to find out."

He was wearing a t-shirt and jeans and wasted no time getting out of them. No time for romance, I guess. But I kind of liked the directness of it all. I was horny and anxious.

I was still dressed in my school uniform--white blouse, pleated skirt.

He pulled me close and gave me a rough kiss. His hands gripped and squeezed my ass. And then he slid them beneath my skirt and started jerking down my panties. I kicked them off and laid down on the bed. Ant mounted me. He started fingering me roughly and I moaned.

"Shhhh!" Ant said harshly and cupped a hand over my mouth.

"Take that off," he said, nodding at my blouse. "I want to see those titties."

I started to unbutton my top. Before I could sit up to slide it off he pulled down the cups of my bra. And full tits were exposed. He kissed and bit at my nipples and fingerbanged me at the same time.

And then he gave me that big cock.

He took it slow at first. And with every thrust I cried out. He kept trying to cover my mouth.

"Damn," he growled. "This ain't gonna work. Roll over."

I got on my hands and knees. He flipped up my skirt and slid into me from behind. He pushed a pillow in front of my face.

"Moan into that," he said.

And then he started fucking me again. Slow at first, but quickly building pace. The pillow absorbed my passionate moans as his big dick stretched me apart. As he went faster the little dorm bed started to move. And then the headboard hit the wall. Ant slowed down for a few seconds, but he couldn't help himself. The headboard cracked the wall loudly again.

"Damn!" he exclaimed again. "Get on the floor."

He threw a pillow down for my knees and I got down on the bedroom floor. Ant mounted me from behind. His big cock slid right back in my dripping wet hole.

With a second pillow muffling my face, Ant fucked me doggystyle. The pillow beneath my knees didn't last long--he was too forceful and we were slipping around. And I didn't even give a damn. He gave it to me like a man who hadn't fucked in months--even though it had been just under a week since he'd screwed until sunup.

I squealed into the pillow and moaned and pushed my hips back into him. I wanted every millimeter of his huge black cock inside me. I came quickly--once, and then a second time before he pulled out and splashed his load on my bare ass.

After that we lied together in my bed whispering softly. He was a perfect gentleman. And then he slipped quietly back through the window he'd entered.

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The next night I sat in the room of Lana, one of my best friends at school, showing off the rug burns on my knees and giving her all the dirty details of my night. I lingered on the moments after we'd fucked, when Ant had become so tender and we'd just rested together.

"Wow," Lana said with a wink. "You better watch out. Sounds like you're a school girl with a crush. Like you have feelings for this guy."

"Hush," I said and gave her a playful swat. "I think you know better than anyone that I know the difference between fucking someone and dating them."

Lana had been my first lover. She'd fingered me in that very bed. But we'd never dated or considered it a relationship. Neither of us were that serious about the lesbian thing. We were just really good friend. Good friends who sometimes liked to strip each other naked and fuck.

"You should come to the game with me this Friday. We can all hang out after," I said.

Lana faked a yawn.

"You know I have no interest in sports, Kay. What would I do?"

"I don't know," I said playfully. "Don't we always have a good time." I gave her a mischievous wink and leaned closer to her. She just responded with a wicked smile.

"Where's your roommate at?" I asked.

"Library."

"And when will she be back?"

"I don't know," Lana said coyly. "Could be any minute."

I gave her a frustrated look.

"You wanna go for a walk?"

Lana feigned another yawn.

"No thanks," she said. "I don't feel like getting dressed."

She was wearing nothing but a long, white t-shirt.

"Oh," I responded. I sat quietly for a minute and started for the door. "Well, I'm going for a walk."

Lana stood up and I was sure she'd start getting dressed to go with me.

"Not me," she said. "I'm fine right here."

She grabbed the hem of her t-shirt and pulled it up over ahead. She tossed it on the bed. Lana was wearing a white satin bra with black lace trim and matching panties. She had the nicest underwear of any girl I knew! And she looked sexy as hell with her long, lean body and big tits.

I crossed the room and stood in front of her.

"When is she really coming back?" I asked

"I REALLY have no clue," she said. "But you're welcome to stay."

I was excited by risk, but this was a little too much. Lana's roommate was a nice enough girl, but she was also a prude. If she caught us we'd be in deep shit.

"Let's just go for a walk," I said again and headed to the door.

Lana unclasped her bra and dropped it on the floor.

"I say we stay here," she said.

"This is silly," I said. "It's too much. What if she comes back?"

Lana made a pouty face.

"Don't you want to fuck me, Kay?"

She'd said that to me before. On the first night we ever fooled around. I'd left in a hurry that night--a huge mistake on my part. Now the question had become part of our regular foreplay. It never failed to flip my switch.

I rushed across the room and pushed her against the wall. We kissed one another hungrily.

"You know I want to fuck you," I said.

I cupped her titties and kissed her again. I still had on my uniform blouse and her nimble fingers ran through the buttons. My plain white bra was nowhere near as interesting as hers, but she didn't have time to notice. She unclasped it and threw it on the floor.

She pushed me onto her bed and tugged at my jeans. They were so tight that my little cotton panties slid off with them. She buried her face in my hot snatch.

Nobody can eat pussy like Lana. They can come close, but it's not possible to top her. She ran her tongues around the lips and then attacked my clit. She flicked and toyed at it with her tongue. She sucked and poked and prodded in just the right ways, bringing me quickly to the brink of orgasm--and then she plunged two fingers into my wet cunt. I clenched my thighs around her head and came hard--fighting a losing battle not to cry out.

Lana stood up and shimmied out of her panties.

"My turn," she said, "drawing my face to her neatly trimmed bush."

She stood in front of me with her legs spread as I buried my face in her. I put two fingers inside her and sucked hard on her clit. She put her hands on the back of my head, pushing me in.

I knew every spot to hit and I got her off quickly. Lana didn't even try to be quiet. She just didn't give a fuck.

"Fuck yes," she panted as she came.

She pushed me down into the bed and got next to me. The two of us embraced. We rubbed each other's tits and kissed passionately. My fingers went back to her cunt and she found mine. I fucked her pussy with two and then three fingers while my thumb pressed against her clit. It felt like she was trying to put her whole fucking fist inside me as she slammed me with four fingers.

I rolled her over roughly, turned around, and sat on her face. i started lapping at her pussy with my tongue while she did the same. We fingered one another roughly. I came a second time and then a third. Lana had at least one more orgasm. And still we couldn't stop. I kept sitting on her face as she brought me off a fourth time. I kept attacking her clit my teeth and tongue. My fingers were soaked with her juices.

"My ass," she said. "Put one in my ass."

I took my soaked index finger and slid it in her asshole. Lana squealed with delight and came again.

As it turns out, her roommate didn't come back until much later. By that time the two of us were both passed out beneath the sheets--neither of us wearing a thing. But it wasn't unusual for girls at school to have little sleepovers and watch movies and wake up in the wrong room. I know she didn't think a thing of it. She was sound asleep when I woke up, dressed in the dark, and slipped out.

I was pretty positive Lana would be up for attending the basketball game.

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To make game day fun, Lana let me have access to her closet. She was taller and leaner than me, and I had bigger tits, but we were still close to the same size. And she had so many outfits that you wouldn't find in the closet of any other boarding school girl.

We both put on garter belts--mine white, hers red. She work black stocking with lacy red panties and a bra that made no attempt to hide her nipples. Her dress was ultra thing black material with a floral print and buttons all down the front. It didn't even come to the top of her stockings. It as the type of dress that most women would wear over a slip or tank top. But, of course, Lana didn't bother. I could see her red bra and even her panties. She didn't know what the night would bring, but she definitely wanted the boys to notice.

Lana had to talk me out of being too conservative.

"Come on," she goaded. "Let's shock that guy."

I wore a black strapless bra and matching satin panties with black stockings and Lana's heels. She squeezed me into a sleeveless black tube dress that could barely contain my tits. I had to fight with her before she'd let me wear a black cardigan to cover my bare shoulders. We slipped off campus with both us covered in long, heavy coats.

Lana would never admit it, but I think she enjoyed the game. Like me, she couldn't hate staring at tall, sweaty, muscular older men.

After the game when Ant came over he couldn't take his eyes off either of us. A blind person could have seen the open lust.

"What are you ladies doing for the rest of the night?" he asked.

"Oh, nothing," I said coyly. "We'll probably just go back to school and turn in."

"Why don't you come over to my place--hang out with me and my roommates?" he asked.

"I think Lana's tired," I said.

She nodded and broke out her fake yawn again.

Ant nodded at a couple of guys out on the court. One of them was Stu--the teammate he'd let fuck me while I sucked him off.

"These guys will be there. They're cool. I'm sure you'll like them. Give me some time to hang out with my lady," he said to Lana.

"You're lady?" Lana asked. She stood closer to me and wrapped an arm around my waist. "This one is all mine."

Lana had never been so demonstrative in public. We were always alone when we fooled around. I scanned the stands worried that I might see someone from school.

Ant didn't know what to say. He had a puzzled look on his face. And then he just smiled and laughed.

"OK, then," he said. "Well come over and allow me to hang out with YOUR lady."

Lana agreed--which, of course, had been the plan all along. We just wanted to give him a hard time.

He jotted down an address and told us to meet him in half an hour.

The house was a typical student rental. It looked to have two stories and a few bedrooms. Ant answered the door and we walked in to find a group of guys sitting around watching sports.

"Damn," one of them said as he looked our way. "Did you bring enough friends for everyone, Ant?"

I recognized him from the team but only knew his last name--Johnson. A burly white guy who looked more like a bodybuilder than a basketball player.

"Nope, fellas," Ant said. "This is it."

"Is this your girl, Ant?" another guy said. A small black guy who was also on the team. The point guard. I only knew him as Thomas.

"I thought so," Ant said. "But Lana here tells me that Kay's her girl!"

The guys started to hoot and holler.

"Oh, boys," Lana said. "So predictable. Is it really such a fantasy to think of two girls together?"

"I don't know about you guys, but I like the idea of seeing two girls kiss," said Stu. He was sitting with a beer in one hand and a slice of pizza in the other.

"Kiss?" Lana said in disbelieve. "Really? Is that all it takes. That's nothing!"

It was Ant that spoke up this time.

"Oh, it's nothing? I bet you two won't kiss right here."

I knew as soon as he said it that Lana wasn't backing down from that challenge. I wasn't a hundred percent comfortable with the situation, but I knew her mind and I loved her for it, so I was going to play along.

Lana leaned in close and pressed her lips to mine. Her tongue darted into my mouth. She wrapped her arms around my body and cupped my ass. The boys got silent. And then they started to clap.

"ALRIGHT!!!" someone shouted.

"Give us some more" I heard Ant say.

I kind of wanted to stop. I knew things could escalate quickly. But Lana was going full steam.

She started tugging up the hem of my dress. I knew every guy in the room could see my ass and panties. Again, they'd gotten quiet.

I closed my eyes and imagined we were alone and back in the dorm. I wanted things to come naturally. I started lifting Lana's dress. I ran my fingers over her bare thighs from the panties to the top of her stockings.

She pushed her lips close to my ear.

"Do you want to fuck me, Kay?" she whispered.

She knew exactly what she was doing. She was flicking the switch.

I slid my fingers inside the leg of her panties and touched Lana's pussy. She was already drenched!

I could still hear the boys in the background. They were muttering and making exclamations. But none of it mattered. It was in one ear and out the other.

Lana started unbuttoning her dress.

"Do you want to fuck me, Kay?" he prodded again.

I kissed her bare neck. I ran my lips along her red bra, kissing the tops of her titties.

My dress was now pushed up well over my waist. I could feel the air on my bare middrift. Lana's hand found it's way into my panties and onto my clit. I thought my knees would buckle. I pulled down a cup on Lana's bra and exposed her tit. And then I took her nipple in my mouth and sucked at it like a baby.

When I glanced at the boys, Ant--still standing a few feet away--was the only one not touching himself. Johnson and Thomas were trying to be discreet about adjusting their cocks. Stu wasn't even trying. He had one hand on the beer and the other feverishly rubbing the hard on in his shorts.

Lana noticed, too.

"What's a matter?" she said to Stu. "You don't know what that thing is for?"

He looked puzzled.

"Huh" was all Stu could muster.

"Do you just like to stroke it, or do you want to put it in some pussy?" Lana asked.

As I'd learned the other night, Stu wasn't the shy type and didn't need a second invitation. He stood up and stripped faster than anyone I'd ever seen.

With his giant stride, he crossed the room in two seconds with his long prick pointing the way.

He put his hand on Lana's wrist.

"I want a bed," he said.

The two of them practically ran down the hall with me in two. The rest of the group followed.

There were two double beds and Stu guided Lana to one of them. She got on her back, spread her legs, and unsnapped her garters so he could get at her panties. He pulled them down and tossed them on the floor. Stu leaned forward like he was going to eat her pussy and Lana angrily pushed him away.

"Kay can eat my pussy any time," she said. "I want that big cock."

Stu didn't waste around or attempt to be delicate. He gave it to her hard. I got in bed next to Lana and opened the rest of her dress. I started sucking on her titty. Her whole body was shaking violently as Stu pounded her cunt like a fucking jackhammer. She moaned and groaned in a way I'd never heard--it was guttural and animal-istic.

"Fuck me harder," she said.

"Oh yeah," Stu responded. He nodded in my direction. "Suck her titties."

Lana jerked my dress down and my bra with it. My tits hung out and I dangled them over her. She tried to lick them but could barely focus. Stu was tearing her pussy apart.

When I looked over, Ant was completely naked. He got in the bed with the three of us. I pulled my panties off and tossed them to the floor.

I straddled Lana, facing Stu as he continued to tear her apart. Lana was in the midst of back-to-back orgasms. She licked at my pussy and fingered my clit. And then Ant started fucking me from behind.

I still felt Lana tonguing my pussy. She was licking his shaft as he pulled it in and out of my hole. And at the same time she was getting fucked like a cheap slut. I felt a tinge of jealousy and didn't even know why.

"Fuck me like a man," I said to Ant.

He fucked me like he had something to prove, grabbing at my hips and slamming it into me. I knew there was no chance he'd last for long and I was right. With Stu still fucking away at my best friend, Ant pulled out and shot his hot load all over my ass at the same time I started cumming. Stu seemed to think that was a good idea and pulled out of Lana to spray her stomach with his jizz.

Ant and Stu were spent, but the night was still early compared to me and Lana.

We started rolling around on the bed, stripping off every stitch of our remaining clothes. I was aware of all the eyes on us and felt so naughty. Everything we were doing felt wrong and so out character for me. But at the same time it was like living in dream. I had no desire to stop. I kept touching Lana's sweaty tits. She put her fingers in my cunt and worked my clit the way only she knew how. She made me cum again and again while the boys just watched. I wanted to return the favor, but I couldn't focus long enough to please her--and Lana wasn't about to slow down.

The guys were just lined up on the next bed like they were watching a TV show. Thomas finally stood up and started to strip. He was apparently tired of waiting for an invitation. He wedged his way in between the two of us.

His dick was huge, too. It wasn't the intimidating python that Ant had. And it wasn't a long, skinny pole like Stu's. It was just fat. Seven or eight inches and impossibly thick. He paused for a second, as if he couldn't decide what to do. And then he started batting it off our lips.

Lana took it in her hand--she could barely grip it. She crammed the tip in her mouth. I started licking his shaft like a popsicle. He put a hand on each of our titties and started playing with them. I started rubbing his balls as he tried to cram himself deeper down Lana's throat. He let go of my tit and grabbed the back of her head. I wrapped my fingers around the exposed part of his shaft and started stroking it as Lana bobbed up and down on the head.

"Oh fuck," Thomas muttered.

And then he creamed. Lana wasn't ready and gagged a bit. He pulled back, still cumming, and shot massive spurts of his goo on her titties.

"What the fuck?" Lana said with a hint of anger. "You can't even get me off before you cum?"

Thomas started apologizing, but he still had a big grin on his face. I had a feeling he didn't give a fuck about anything but getting his nut.

All the boys were on their feet now to get a better view. Ant and Stu were both languidly rubbing their cocks. Johnson--who had yet to join the festivities--had pulled his cock out through the fly of his shorts. He was tugging it without shame. It was the most unimpressive cock of the bunch--a little short, but he still had nice girth. Ant laughed at the way Lana had berated Thomas.

"Ah, give him a break--he's just a freshman," he said. "Why don't you let a man show him how to please that pussy?"

"Is that guy just gonna watch all night?" Lana said, nodding at Johnson. She was definitely feeling feisty. But Johnson barely acknowledged her taunts.

Ant spread Lana's legs and hovered over her. That big dick of his looked way too large for Lana's tight little slit. But he got it in there without much effort.

Again, she made sounds like I'd never heard from her lips.

"Oh...you're gonna tear me apart," she panted. "That's the biggest dick I've ever seen!"

He got every inch of it inside her. She sat up. Her nails were digging into his bare back.

I have to admit I felt something like jealousy. I wasn't even sure for whom. Ant was definitely not my man. And he'd had no problem at all with sharing me. And Lana was definitely not my girl. Still, I didn't like the two of them fucking. And he wasn't messing around. He was giving it too her hard. And Lana was screaming like a banshee.

"I like your tight pussy," Ant kept saying. "I like your tight little hole."

I got out of bed and dropped to my knees in front of Stu. I started stroking and licking his half-erect cock. And I played up every second of it.

"You like that, Stu?"

He would just nod and grunt.

"Your cock tastes so good, Stu. I wanna taste your cum."

Johnson kept hovering closer to the two of us. He was still dressed, except for his exposed cock. And was was really going to town on it.

"Yeah, suck that cock," he muttered. It was the first thing he'd said in ages.

With the tip of my tongue I started teasing Stu's cum hole. He moaned and told me not to stop. I pumped his shaft with my free hand.

I could still hear Lana moaning in the back ground.

"Yes!" she exclaimed. "Yes! Give me that big dick. Fuck me hard Ant. Fuck me hard. Fuck me hard. Fuck me hard. Oh...."

I knew the sound of her orgasm as if it was my own.

I pulled harder on Stu's dick. I swirled my tongue around the head.

Johnson was tugging himself even faster now. I heard a grunt and then felt his hot cum splashing against my titties. I pulled away from Stu's cock.

"What the hell?" I said and I gave Johnson a glare.

Stu tried to guide my head back to his swollen meat.

"No," I said. "Fuck me now. Fuck me good, Stu."

I got up and leaned over the edge of the bed, my plump little ass poking out. My face was inches from Lana. Ant was still fucking her without mercy. Every few seconds the two of them would kiss. Long, intimate tongue kisses.

I knew Stu was ready to burst, and he wasted no time getting in my pussy. He slid that long dick in from behind and immediately went to down.

It sounded like we were having a contest. The boys just grunting away. And Lana and I both moaning and groaning and talking like nasty sluts.

"Fuck me hard," she was still saying. "Fuck me hard, Ant. Fuck me with that big dick."

'You feel so good, Stu. Yes. Yes. Oh. Give it to me. You make me cum so hard!"

When I started to cum it was more than Stu could take. I felt him blow his load into my pussy. But Ant was still going. He'd made Lana climax at least three times. She finally put her hands on his chest and pushed him away.

"Get on your back" she commanded. "I wanna impale myself on that thing."

As Ant rolled over she once again looked over at Johnson.

"What about this guy?" she said, taunting him again. "Are you ever going to do anything? Or are you just a pervert?"

He'd zipped up his pants. But despite just cumming, I could see a new bulge had already formed.

Lana focused her attention on me. She leaned over and kissed my lips. It was soft. Delicate. Affectionate.

And then she stood above Ant and slowly sat down on his cock.

It was fucking hot to watch. His thick poll was already glistening from her juices. And it disappeared inch by inch inside her stretched pussy lips.

I didn't feel jealous any more. At this point I was becoming one of the boys. I just wanted to enjoy the show.

Ant sat up and started sucking on Lana's titties. She bounced up and down on his big dick. Again, she was wailing.

Behind me, Johnson had finally undressed. The guy looked like a model. All ripped muscles. Apparently something in Lana's taunting had struck a nerve.

He climbed into the bed behind her and put a hand on her back. Ant and Lana toppled over easily. He was on his back with her weight on his chest. His cock was still buried in her.

"You want me to do something?" Johnson said.

He didn't wait for an answer. He had a bottle of baby oil in his hand and poured some down the crack of his ass. His cock was already glistening--he's apparently lubed up already.

He put his fat cock at Lana's tight asshole, and then he crammed it in.

The sound she made was intense. It was a mix of agony and pure bliss.

Ant looked shocked--and then he just went with it.

The two of them started alternating strokes. One in Lana's pussy and the other in her ass. Their balls were inches apart. Johnson reached around to fondle her titties while Ant licked at them.

I felt Thomas come up behind me. He pressed his muscled chest against my bare back. I could feel his dick against my spine.

"Do you wanna fuck?" he asked.

"Can you last longer than five minutes?" I responded. Apparently Lana's feistiness was contagious!

He assured me he would.

On the double bed I laid down inches from Ant. Lana's face hovered over him. She kept squealing and moaning. She couldn't have made words if she tried. She was just resting on Ant's cock now while Johnson did all the work, pounding away inside her tight little ass.

Johnson went to work on my pussy. He was the third person to put his cock inside me that night, and it still felt great.

"Don't you just watch," I told Stu.

He came over to the side of the bed and I grabbed his cock and tugged until he was hard. I wanted to suck him off, but Thomas was like a little jackhammer inside me. So I just held it tightly and kept stroking.

It was hard to tell who has having more fun. Lana kept cumming. Thomas was hitting my spot. Johnson was grunting like an animal as he fucked Lana in the ass. Ant was smiling as she rode him. And even Stu seemed to enjoy than handy.

Eventually he tried to tap Thomas out.

"Let me get some," Stu said.

"Hold up, hold up..." I heard Ant say. "Johnson...move."

Everything froze. Ant pushed Lana away.

"This one's mine," he said.

And then he picked me up in his strong arms. I wrapped my own arms around his neck. I locked my legs around his waist. He pinned me against the wall and used a hand to his cock back inside me. He was so strong! Using his hips, he started bouncing me up and down on that thick shaft.

Lana was on her hands and knees now with her head at the edge of the bed. Johnson got behind her and put his cock back in her ass. She had Stu's dick in her left hand and Thomas in her right. She was tugging Stu and licking Thomas. I knew she could taste my pussy juice on him.

There was no way Ant was lasting long in that position. He got me off one time and then he blew. As he let me down I watched Stu cum in Lana's mouth and then Thomas did the same. I walked over and kissed her, tasting both of their cum.

Johnson finally pulled out and exploded like a damn volcano. His cum hit Lana's butt cheeks and the bed sheets.

Lana rolled over and kept rubbing her own clit. I quickly joined her, and the night ended like it had began. With all four boys watching Lana and I rolled around pleasing one another. And we could have gone on whenever. We kept up it up for at least half an hour.

Catching her breath, Lana said "I think I have some weed out in the car."

One of the boys offered to get it.

"No, I'll get it. Come with me, Kay."

The two of us put on our dresses and coats. We stuffed bras and panties into our handbags and ran outside.

"Let's just go," Lana said with a grin.

And so we jumped in the car and couldn't stop laughing.

"We're such sluts!" Lana said.

"You're a bad girl," I added.

"No, you're a naughty girl," she said.

We said in silence for a minute and kept giggling.

Finally I had the perfect thing to say.

"Do you wanna fuck me, Lana?"

She hit the brakes and pulled to the side of the road.

Maybe we would go on forever.